This account is interesting because it’s consistent with the phenomenon of older guys recovering faster than younger guys. He’s not well yet, but far ahead of where many young guys who started on highspeed would be after 26 days of no porn (but frequent orgasm).
POST #1 (fnordsnord)
Life’s funny that way. I’ve fallen off the nofap bandwagon (although I’m way down. Once a day, no more than 3 days or so a week, instead of multiple times a day, whenever I could get enough privacy). I REALLY seem to need that release.
But I’m porn free for 26 days now. (I do see the occasional static nude, and do not reset. My habit was multiple daily faps to high-speed video Internet porn. I’ve not been to a tubesite (or other video resource) for 26 days.
The thing is – that part has been easy. I seem to be fortunate in that in spite of being a porn user since puberty, I don’t feel compelled to seek out porn.
The big news for me is that I got laid new year’s eve and again new year’s day – with no problems with ED.
I’ll bet if I go back to nofap, my DE will go away, too.
POST #2
I think that oser is right. Everything I’ve read so far falls more or less in line with Your Brain On Porn. It’s not fapping that hurts you, although you can, like anything else, do too much of it.
It’s the constant influx of porn that your brain interprets, through fapping as successful mating opportunities that re-wires your brain.
That’s what led to my ED, and again, my ED appears to have cleared up now that I’m at 26 days of porn free.
QUESTION: Wow so your ED is pretty much fixed, without stopping masturbation? Did you use internet porn during your teens??
POST #3
Oh, my fapping life is pretty much the history of porn. I’m turning 50 this year, and I started out before puberty. I distinctly remember my Mom asking me why the Sears catalog was in my toybox. I was looking at the girls my age in the underwear section. I didn’t know why, but I liked the feeling it gave me in my stomach and in my pants.
A few years later I found my Dad’s porn stash. I remember my first orgams, on my bed when I barely had hair one, surrounded by open playboy and penthouse magazine. I also boosted some old school stag films from my great-uncle’s truck stop. 8MM silent black and white flicks.
When I got busted messing with my Dad’s stash and it got removed from the house, I started shoplifting my own. (I was still a minor at the time, and they wouldn’t sell to me.) I got caught once, but the store owner just banned me; I wasn’t arrested.
It was about this time that I created my first fake ID. To go to porn shops and fap in the booths. In those days, they had color films that ran continuously in loops. I never sank to sitting in a theater and fapping, although I saw it happen.
Shortly after that was the “golden age” of porn. Porn came to our town in drive-ins, so I could drive in, park, watch the film, fap in privacy, then drive away.
Then I started college. I bought a VERY expensive VCR specifically so I could go to the video store and rent porn to fap to, so that I couldn’t have to go to seedy porno stores any more. Around this time was also the birth of the internet. But at speeds so slow that it took 15 minutes to download a decent photo.
So porn fans like me learned to automate that process, and download our pics over night. And there was a TON of porn stories out there to read, all for free. Video, however, took HOURS to download, and was grainy and the size of a postage stamp.
Toward the end of my college career, live video started to be streamed over the internet, as well as recorded. I spent an astonishing amount of time watching the feeds at my desk at work, late at night. It really was pathetic. I could have been thrown out of school or fired if I was caught, but in those days no one monitored how the bandwidth was being used.
Shortly after THAT ISDN became available. I was still scraping video off of the binaries groups on usenet. It was only a few years ago that I discovered tube sites, and those are the worst, I think, for warping your brain.
Bottom line, I didn’t use internet porn during my teens, but only because it didn’t really exist as you think of it today. But I have used every kind of porn delivery system you can imagine, and it’s only gotten less realistic and more prolific as time has gone by.
Here’s the deal – I’ve had Delayed Ejaculation since I became sexually active. I lost my virginity 34 years ago, and I came inside her. That was one of like six times in my life I’ve come inside a woman. Plus twice from getting blown.
I’ve had a LOT of sex. But I only cum by myself. When I was younger, a lot of guys complained about premature ejaculation – being TOO quick on the draw. I thought I had great control. (And I will admit, DE is a LOT less disappointing to your partner than PE.)
It took me a quarter century to realize that what I thought was an asset was a PROBLEM. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS of less-than-great sex. Porn really rots your brain.
The ED only started once I started using the tube sites. The constant availability of novel, full-motion or compressed video with an audio track really messed with my sense of arousal.
I will NEVER forget having an attractive, attentive, willing partner say to me “you don’t want this.”
The HELL I didn’t. I’d been chasing that particular experience for TWO YEARS, and then Big Jim and the Twins decided not to come to work. I went to the doctor shortly after that, but he declared that I didn’t have a problem, because I could fap. If everything works fine when you’re by yourself, you don’t have a plumbing problem. The problem is between your ears.
He gave me viagra. but it didn’t help. It says right on the box: does NOT produce an automatic boner. Sexual arousal must already exist. (I paraphrase.)
It was Your Brain On Porn, which I found, ironically, while searching for more porn, that put me on this track. I went porn free as an experiment 31 days ago.
I won’t say my ED is gone, but it’s greatly improved. Over the past two weeks, with two different partners I was able to achieve and sustain functional erections. (I used to be able to hammer a six inch spike through a two inch oak plank with it – THAT level of virility has NOT returned. I suspect because I’m still fapping 3 – 4 times a week.
LINK – No relapses at NoFap, but PornFree is way harder
by fnordsnord
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