- Scroll down to the comments section to view over 1000 posts by individuals conducting The Other Porn Experiment (all are from other websites as YBOP has no forum).
- See this 2016 peer-reviewed paper by Gary Wilson: Eliminate Chronic Internet Pornography Use to Reveal Its Effects (2016)
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Article: What Can Informal Control Groups of Former Porn Users Show Us?
The widespread use of Internet porn has been one of the fastest-moving, most global experiments ever unconsciously conducted. But it’s not the only groundbreaking porn experiment going on today. Devastated by sexual performance problems or other crippling symptoms (such as morphing sexual tastes, loss of attraction to real mates, and uncharacteristic desire to isolate), users are taking the initiative. They are conducting their own counter-experiments by the thousands.
By stopping porn use and sharing their “findings” publicly, these guys are, in effect, the missing control group. They are the non-porn users that researchers say they can’t produce. (In 2009, when researcher Simon Louis Lajeunesse attempted to investigate the effects of Internet porn on college guys, he couldn’t find any who weren’t using it.) Why do control groups matter? Imagine if all guys started smoking heavily at age 10 and there were no groups who didn’t. We’d all assume respiratory disease and lung cancer were normal for guys.
In the case of Internet porn, usage is nearly universal among today’s young males. Without control groups, it has been hard to know which, if any, of their diverse symptoms might be arising from years of continuous Internet porn use.
Informal control groups to the rescue
But for the last decade, humanity has had a way of comparing Internet erotica use with non-use on a wide scale. Sure, it’s not ideal. It’s not double-blind and it’s not randomized. But this new informal experiment has its own advantages that many formal studies lack: It is international, very large, public, and growing. Thousands of experimenters have sprung up in all kinds of forums where men congregate: bodybuilding sites, pick-up artist sites, information sites, sports sites, porn-recovery forums, etc., and the threads are often thousands of posts long.
My mindset has definitely shifted. I was never thinking that porn would cause problems for me but it did and quitting porn use confirmed this.
One active pocket of explorers is on www.reddit.com, a popular hangout for today’s youngish Internet-savvy males. Most of reddit.com is militantly pro-porn use, which makes the 380,000+ Reddit “[No] Fapstronauts” bold indeed. (A Fapstronaut describes the Reddit 90-day challenge.) Or if you prefer to avoid Reddit, check out www.rebootnation.org and www.nofap.com.
For the uninitiated, “fapping” is slang for masturbating to Internet porn. Most young men in the Reddit generation have not masturbated without the aid of the Internet, so for them porn and masturbation are synonymous. In fact, many are surprised to discover that, when they give up Internet porn and their brains return to normal sensitivity, climax without porn is a more sensual, satisfying experience.
Porn-loving detectives at work
Why would a porn-loving guy quit? Symptoms vary, but most guys quit only because they figure out that they may have developed porn-related sexual dysfunction. Two guys explain:
Guy 1: When I started no-fap, I couldn’t even get hard on porn. That is how addicted I was. Watching porn had become a daily habit for me, not something I did because I was horny.
Guy 2: I noticed my behavior and mojo would change depending on if/when I fapped, yet still I heard all around me that masturbating/porn is normal and healthy. But I had difficulty finishing with my girlfriends. I actually faked orgasm to hide this, and dreaded [receiving oral sex] without using my hands. To fix it, I’d not fap until after I met them for sex.
What kinds of improvements do no-fappers report?
Rebooter from our forum: I’ve just reached 5 weeks of no porn, no masturbation. I’m over the flu-like [withdrawal] symptoms and I’ve started hitting the weights again. It feels good to be squatting again. ROAR! The insomnia has gotten better, though there are still restless nights, but my quality of sleep has improved dramatically. I’ve also noticed some morning wood. Redditor: I don’t mean to come across as melodramatic, but suicide was a serious daily contemplation. I hated other people, who seemed so cheery, and was just angry and frustrated. [Quitting porn] has changed me for the better. I feel like life is once again worth living.
Discovering real mates
Others are rediscovering what it’s like to enjoy social interactions and be attracted to real mates. They are finding out what full erections are. Most impressively, they learn how great intercourse feels to a brain that is no longer desensitized. Many report improvements in confidence, mental clarity, charisma, vocal quality, self-respect, and ability to socialize and flirt. They feel like themselves again, or perhaps for the first time. After all, a fish only grasps the concept of water when it leaves it behind. In short, the very symptoms psychologist Philip Zimbardo describes in his short TED talk about the effects of “Internet arousal addiction” are receding in these “test subjects.” (Note: As of 2018 the World Health Organization plans to add both gaming disorder and compulsive sexual behavior disorder to the world’s most widely used diagnostic manual.)
Distressing news from The Other Porn Experiment
The only worrying bit of data from the informal control groups is that porn addicts who cut their teeth on highspeed are not recovering their sexual performance as quickly as those who engaged in courtship/mating behaviors with real partners before they dove into highspeed (see – Young Porn Users Need Longer To Recover Their Mojo). This is more evidence that today’s porn has different effects on some brains from static porn of the past.
Unfortunately, this generally means that a younger guy with sexual performance problems can expect a slower recovery than a guy who has been using porn far longer. Adolescent brains with early access to limitless highspeed porn appear to be more vulnerable to its effects than older brains. This phenomenon is consistent with the unique features of the adolescent brain, and the way brains prune back unused circuitry by adulthood, possibly leaving some porn fans stranded with a stronger attraction to pixels than real partners.
Existing research on Internet porn
Most questionnaire-based porn research has fallen into two categories. (We’re not speaking of the recent Internet addiction brain research that includes porn use too.)
- Has Internet porn caused an increase in crime, rape, and other irrelevant data?
- How does the user “feel” about porn?
As for 1: Stats show a rise in rape rates in recent years, despite the fact that excessive Internet porn use actually takes the starch out of many guys.
As for 2, guess what? Porn users like porn. Most see no problem with it. More important, they assume it’s not creating any negative consequences (and it may not be). But if you are 22, and all you have ever known from age 11 is daily Internet porn use, how do you know whether it is connected with symptoms (if any)?
Most guys only figure out what’s going on if they experiment with stopping:
I’m a 16-year-old boy/man. When I was young I was carefree. But as I grew older I started to become extremely depressed, unmotivated and shy. I’ve only recently realised how much being addicted to porn and masturbation (since I was 12) has affected my life. I feel like I’ve wasted enough of my life at this point, and I’m determined to stop this addiction. The first time I realised that abstaining from masturbation has many benefits was about two months ago. I went almost two weeks. I felt extremely confident and found it really easy to talk to girls and people I didn’t know. In fact, the first time I intentionally went without masturbation, I fell in love.
Student, 22 – My friends and I were inspired by the Seinfeld episode “The Contest” and by “40 Days and 40 Nights” (both comedies about trying to temporarily stop masturbating). Just the challenge of it was fun, but I also found that my interest in girls lined-up properly with reality. Instead of daydreaming about doing a pornstar in some crazy position, I planned exactly how I’d ask the girl-next-door to the Valentine’s dance. Anyway, I went to college (and started watching porn again), and my education never took off, and my dating/sex-life never took off. I eventually dropped out and worked for a few years, and now I’m back at college. I feel like my life almost passed me by. More self-reports
A new control group from The Other Porn Experiment
The glaring knowledge gap left by the absence of formal control groups has actually already been closed by addiction specialists. However, the mainstream media has been slow to catch up with this development. In 2011, the American Society of Addiction Medicine (doctors and researchers) declared that addiction is one disease, not many. ASAM specifically stated sexual behavior addictions are as real as drug addictions. And they say that all addictions can be assessed the same way.
Since then a wealth of new Internet addiction research has come out confirming that Internet addiction (1) changes brains in the same ways that other addictions do and (2) causes depression, anxiety, hostility, interpersonal sensitivity, and psychoticism in some users. Some research also reveals rates of addiction in young male Internet users that are more than twice the rates of drug and alcohol use in the population.
Good news
Incidentally, if you’re hooked, be optimistic. Some internet addiction studies have found reversal of some addiction-related brain changes.
Still, without easy-to-understand research that isolates Internet porn use, includes control groups, and leads to simple headlines, it has been challenging for mainstream journalists to grasp, or report accurately on, the significance for porn users of recent Internet addiction research. Some inadvertently misled readers by implying that researchers have investigated porn users’ brains and found nothing. This risks perpetuating a false sense of safety in those who begin to notice symptoms.
Moreover, some academics have been quick to assert that the only possible conclusion (in the absence of the ideal controlled studies), is that Internet porn has no harmful effects. Huh? This position creates risk for addicts, who generally seize upon any excuse to continue using, as well as for adolescents whose brains are particularly vulnerable and whose impulse control has not yet fully developed.
One single variable from The Other Porn Experiment
Today’s informal control groups are showing us just how profoundly highspeed porn alters the lives of users. They are all the people whose brains are sensitive to the stimulation of constant novelty-at-a-click. By removing the single variable of frequent highspeed porn use, vital, illuminating data are being collected and shared informally. Lives are transforming. Browse thousands of recovery self-reports to learn what those who’ve recovered have experienced.
Gravity existed before anyone figured it out. So did the hazards of smoking. So do the symptoms of Internet porn overuse. Wide scale human experience can reveal important insights, even when science is immobilized by sexual politics and the impossibility of finding porn virgins. Anecdotal evidence becomes experimental evidence when thousands of people alter only one variable and see remission of common symptoms.
Thanks to the control groups now crystallizing on the web, guys are no longer flying (or fapping) blind.
In the Comments section below are over 1,000 posts from porn recovery forums (YBOP has no forum). These guys are experimenting with giving up porn, masturbation, or both. Many claim they are not addicted to porn. They are part of The Other Porn Experiment.
To understand the possible neurobiology behind many of these benefits, see Porn, Masturbation and Mojo: A Neuroscience Perspective
From reddit – NoFap – 90 days
LINK – I MADE IT
A guy who reduced porn to once a week –
From reddit – NoFap
GO VIKING
My ancestors are Vikings, too, and I feel what you’re saying. Nicely done!
From reddit – NoFap
Day Ten: Being myself.
from medhelp thread
sayno2porn
From reddit – NoFap
POSITIVE CHANGES Observed After 10 Days.
From reddit – NoFap
So, 4 weeks of nofap, breaking a 3 month long 3 day spell?
From reddit – NoFap
From reddit – NoFap
Today is day 15, and here are my results.
this is phenomenal
Awesome Physical Changes.
Hello fellow Fapstronauts,
from medhelp thread
TheChieftan Jun 28, 2012
6-month report
Hi there guys, its been a long time since i was last in this forum.
Hey guys,
everything is going well. i feel great. relaxed, confident, a supreme knowing that everything will work out…even better than my expectations
my skin looks amazing, i am visibly glowing, i naturally stand taller, my voice sounds amazing, i feel like a genius, my talking skills have improved by a long shot, people are a million times nicer to me, i handle my emotions a kajillion times better.
there is really no words to describe how i feel. AND I AM ONLY ON DAY 49!!!!! It gets better than this?!!??!?!?!
i wouldn’t change this experience for anything
women are crushing on me hard. they are just in awe of my existence lol. everytime i am around women, they get nervous, they squirm, they glance, they look away, they let their guard down, they relax, they give me the deer-in-the-headlights look, or the classic doggy-bowl look. i promise you, i am not that good looking (maybe i am?). however, i feel like i am the hottest guy around. bask in my ambiance world lol. the catch 22 of this: even though i am gaining so much confidence, I FEEL SO HUMBLE. i feel incredibly meek.
guess thats what happens when you are holding a month and half of sperm in ya testes lol.
the best part is i dont want any of them. my first reboot goal=get women. 2nd reboot goal=find better quality women.
they all are amazing women, dont get me wrong.
before, i would take anything that was handed to me. now, i am a lot more picky. i want a queen. i want a beautiful, self-confident, strong but humble woman.
i have to start socializing more and i have to start weight training soon also.
in conclusion,
no PMO=GREATEST life hack ever.
life is good, God is good, prosperity and abundance for all.
From reddit – NoFap
Never thought this would happen.
From debate about nofap
I like this excellent explanation comparing those who have been deeply affected by porn use and other who experience less negative effects (addicted vs non-addicted).
Second guy giving his perspective –
After a month, much PIV success and personality change
50+ days, i’m 30 years old and this is what happened
44 days: Confidence restored.
44 days: Confidence restored.
I made an account just to post because this has changed my life
60 days ago I started this journey.
90 days without fapping and I can’t list a single benefit
COMMENTS: This is the most important post on any page. For some reason this man took nofap literally, and continued to watch porn.
I am at day 93 without porn and I can’t list a single benefit.
COMMENTS: Another person from the above thread who experince no benefits. Is it because he continued some masturbation, or that he hadn’t experienced addiction-related brain changes…or neither?
Reddit Nofap “success” story No. 1337
Nofap “success” story No. 1337
Reddit – my hair has been growing back
Another forum: I’m a gay guy who’s had ED for the last 5 years
From reddit – NoFap: 57 Days, benefits
NoFap – 28 days in: definitely worth it.
Reddit – My No-Fap Journey: 90 days and Counting!
90-day report from reddit
Reddit – relapse revealed benefits
From Wet Dream Forum
I don’t know how your porn usage has affected you, but it’s worth a shot to stay away from it for a while ( and give up MB during that tome as much as you can), and see what happens. WDs are just a side benefit!
18-years-old and just finished the 90 days.
Good night, and good luck.
Nosebleeding, Shemales and Beards
Day 42 – really hard time
just two days from reaching 200 days, a reset!
44days, this is the best thing I ever did
The Dark Knight (as I now call my penis) Rises: 90 days complete
Long time lurker. 26-day relapse [really long testimonial]
At 30 years old, I am finally beginning to feel like an adult
Re: Finally an adult
Hi, ascherj is it? I hope I have the right person. I totally identify with what you’ve written. I’m 29, almost 30, and not much of an ‘adult.’ I regret the past, and the present is tough, not really sure about the direction I’m heading/being financially stable. So glad to hear that ‘control over oneself’ is possible for us, lol.
So how did it go for you, did you re-learn to love people? My mac and exquisite porn (haha) have been the only way I cope with negative feelings towards people, since I was 12. Just wondering, thank you for posting.
its porn
A Collection of Miscellaneous Essays; Nofap and Life
Relapse after 20 days; my story and experiences
Caved after 57 days – Here’s What I Learned
Brain works much more and much better on nofap
My new love interest has started calling me “the voice”
I can’t feel good about having sex without love anymore!
50 Days. My story of Caution. Don’t waste your life away.
50 Days. My story of Caution. Don’t waste your life away.
ANOTHER GUY –
THIRD GUY –
FOURTH GUY –
21 days in – One of the best things about NoFap is…
2 months in, reporting (random bulletpoints)
2 months in, reporting (random bulletpoints)
Made it the entire summer: 90 Days
20 days in and I’m starting to notice some changes
Taking back the control
14 days
Day 60: growth is often hard to notice, but this isn’t
31 day update… massive life change.. if you are thinking about
Two days ago I was miserable
DAY 68 PMO FREE – yourbrainrebalanced
Years of porn
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have made it.
40 days and 40 nights
Nofap has seemed to made my life like the movie Limitless.
My story – 25y old virgin with social anxiety
Day 79 – Feel like Im in the puberty again!
10 days in and I can bend
Age 33 – 5 weeks: Some words from an old guy
Day 22…well, this is a turn up for the books!
Unplugged from the Matrix
“Brain fog” can go fuck itself.
120 Days and still going!
17 years old reboot
my sex life with my wife infinitely better,
General observations after 38 days
30 days! Definitely worth it.
1 year 2 months since last fap
32 Days in, what i’ve noticed about myself, traps, triggers, etc
The Halfway Mark – 45 days
Day 10, and my most noticeable changes are to my social anxiety.
7×7=49 days/My experience with NoFap/Takeaways
Connecting with people, discernment, rambling thoughts…
It is finally here! Day 90! Feels good. Feels real good.
Ask me anything” rel=”noopener noreferrer nofollow”>90 Days!!! Ask me anything
It is finally here! Day 90! Feels good. Feels real good. I’m so glad I found this little corner of the internet and I’m so glad I mad the choice to commit to this. This is a lifelong change for me and I’ll never look back!
Did you do No Fap as well or how did you approach this?
How has your focus and energy levels changed? self confidence? social skills?
[–]AHardChoice92
After a week of no porn/fappin I had the greatest sex in my life
24 Days: I never thought it would be this good!! (Read This)
27 years old, and 10 years of wasted life.
90 Day Report and Life After NoFap
15 days of noFap, like being on a super-drug
How one Fapstronaut found his wings.
Superpower Unlocked: X-RAY VISION
from reddit nofap –
I want to be the man I was after 55 days, not the boy hiding
Day 31 – quick review post
REBOOT WORKS
Day 50: New semester in college, the changes are very noticable
90 Days! And now the real challenge begins…(+some thoughts)
I haven’t tried committing to
from YBOP
Week 1 – Placebo-effect or not things have already started to ch
Vocal range?
Vocal range?
Has anyone noticed an increase in skin quality since they stoppe
Has anyone noticed an increase in skin quality since they stopped fapping?
Obligatory 90-day post
Stop Or You’ll Go Blind
from MedHelp – Too much porn/masturbation cause ED?
40 days – I am much better at talking to women
Topic: Spreading the word. Average person or famous person
Topic: Spreading the word. Average person or famous person
First kiss. Thank you r/NoFap
What PMO addiction really robs you of…
What PMO addiction really robs you of…
My take nofap and its supposed benefits, 20 days in.
DO NOT LOOK AT PORN
90 Days – one of the best things to ever happen to me.
My 90 days, and why I’m going to keep going further.
38 days without porn…
Late post-90 days post – my current self thanks the me from 102
How NoFap changed my life : If you still have doubts, read this.
A very sincere thank you and a personal milestone
I enjoy the little things so much more. Everything is beautiful
Thank you, thank you, thank you
made me realize how little of a sex life outside porn I had
Best Sex of My Life
Day 97-Attention everybody: girls don’t just have boobs and butt
What I Know With 100% Certainty, Join Me.
after 184 days
90 days “clean” – What changed?
This will get you on NoFap for life
My Full Potential (Day 8)
100 Days- Positive changes but, no superpowers
From a Norwegian forum
Improvements despite relapse?
ultra flatline of death/method to make NoFap effortless
You can never go back…
20 Day report
My experience at 104 days – delayed ejaculation
No turning back (5 month report)
The me is returning
I relapsed after 190 days and this is my very fist NoFap post.
The fog is going…
New Personal Best!! And NOFAP Update!!!!!
have a bit more energy and I’m more focused. I am also happier
90 mother flippin days. Woohoo!
PORN IS THE REAL PROBLEM
What are your favorite things about not fapping? I’ll start…
What are your favorite things about not fapping? I’ll start…
My personality has been.. amazing. i love myconfidence, the way
50 days in and feeling great!
so what pushed you over the edge and made you say “no more”?
90 days and it’s been quite a change
recoverd from ED – but went back to porn
i seriously can’t believe i’m back to this stage
Needhops from reuniting…day 73 on
Power (Mind, Body, Soul)
Cool side-effects
Getting Huge Compliments On My Voice
63 days and counting. Thoughts from a bodybuilder on this crazy
Crippling anxiety has all but vanished
Another motivator: eradicating hemorrhoids
My Story, 32yr-old had enough of PMO ruling my life
I was becoming numb: physically, sexually, emotionally, and spir
Erection Disfunction (ED) monitoring thread
Erection Disfunction (ED) monitoring thread
96 day and I am only just beginning.
at least I have beaten social anxiety and confidence problems.
Is it normal for NoFap to leak into other bad habits like eating
My willingness to participate in conversations have increased so
Since the start of senior I never imagined I could be this happy
Before I had anxiety, depression, always lazy, it was a struggle
I was more sociable with females than I had ever been in my life
I’m starting to SEE.
Porn ruined my relationship
The changes I’ve seen so far:
REPLY
A lot can happen in 2 months.
99 days: I want to tell my story again! Now in tl;dr version
45 day report
Worst consequences of your previous fapping/porn habit?
It has been very difficult & enormously rewarding
From foreveralone to neveralone.
my erections were porn dependent
Why I’m done with NoFap
Anyone notice nofap affecting friendships?
my classroom is much better managed this year… a correlation!
I was a video game addict with no confidence and more bad habits
100 days of NoFap, A story of success, c
Abusing Porn: erectile dysfunction and depression (translated)
become a lot more chatty and have grown an extrovert gene.
Things are working out so much better and I have become so outgo
Why NoFap is the greatest change to my life thus far.
Taking back control of your life
first attempt at no fap and I don’t intend on going back
30 days. This is my progress.
You think addiction is the only way to pleasure?
http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com/index.php?topic=13.msg50450#msg50450
I’m opposed to the concept of instant gratification.
Week 1 Check-In
love how much easier it is to focus on a woman
My mind is much clearer now.
No porn in 72 days. Crushed my date tonight.
More confidence, optimism, energy
Neckbeard_McCusty • Sat Oct 27, 2012
Almost 2 years of NoFap. 1 year of relapse. Starting over.
increased energy & drive i have to accomplish, my more stable
2160 hours ago I was watching pornography, masturbating, and mos
60 Days In. Helpful Advice.
benefits in terms of mental clarity, energy, interactions with w
60 Days, having an great time, thanks guys.
Social anxiety. Constantly feeling fearful/doubtful about the f
I work as a software developer at a porn company
My 1 month report.
From Scarcity to Abundance in 40 days
Can’t say as I was ever addicted to PMO,
Whoa, 30 days in and the “super powers” have arrived. (self.NoFa
I have actually been turning my wife down-wtf is wrong with me?
30 days in and just noticed this unexpected change
even after only 3 days my mood has greatly approved.
first time in my 21 years I am in a relationship,
My 90 Day Report (non-addict)
Almost at 90; what I have learned
56 Days In, 36 years old – This has truly been life-changing
Here’s a breakdown of the my 30 days so far:
a very strong connection between my depression and my PMO
1 month report: life is improving
My mind had never been more clear in my life within those three
90 Days! Should I go for 180?
Overdue 60-Day Report
MY childhood FLASHES before ME!
The Lesson (90 Day Report)
How to Not Relapse: A comprehensive step by step guide for champ
Well, I can safely say this last month has changed me
90+ days story and ama
110 days reporting in
Does NoFap make your voice sound deeper?
Does NoFap make your voice sound deeper?
idontfapnomore
[this account is no longer on Reddit]
solideo
persevering
EmphaticItalic
FapckThis
Cotillionx
Monarchisto
ThrowawaySnow
HennersT
sachalamp
kennyc91
90 Days, my story and AMA
I’ve been an pmo addict for
[From another forum]
A Goth is Feeling Happy?
Thank you NoFap, this xmas wont be so lonely
given up porn completely, but still masturbate to fantasies
These past 20 days I’ve been changing into a different person
Day 20: Wow (my experience and benefits so far)
A journey, a realization, a better life.
Musings on day 50, benefits, nofap fact-checking.
There are no superpowers.
90 days.
DAY 60, What My Life is Like.